Clinical Trial of Carcinocin Pap Utrus 30c LIGA USA View Conference
April 19,2010

Dear Homeopaths

My topic today is Clinical  trail of Carcincocin Pap Uterus 30 under the heading--.----------------- Slide 1

Nosode as direct prescription in cases of Cancer of Uterus --------------------------Slide 2

My lecture today will cover following points-----------------------------------Slide 3

1.What is Nosode ?

2.The development of Nosodes?

3. Justification of use of Carcinocin Pap Utereus as Direct prescription in cases of Cancer of Uterus

4. Cinical Trail of Carcinocin Pap Uterus 30c?

5 Discription of Uterine Cancer its diagnosis, prognosis and allopathic treatment.

6. From where to get different Homeopathic Nosodes - according to my information?

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8 One case presentation of regression of  tumor of Cancer Uterus?

9 How it is different from crude isopathy?

10. Why the Nosodes as direct prescription in cases of Cancer was side lined in Homeopathy?

11. Clinical Materia Medica of Carcinocin Pap Uterus.



Other relevant questions which need to be Answered-----------------------------Slide 5





1.  Why Carcinocin of specific part is more effective in cases of cancer of specific part rather than general carcinocin which is available and is generally prepared from Breast cancer discharge.

Because as we all know that Homeopathy  is based on the law of similars. So, what happens is that once the carcinocin of Specific part is introduced to the patient of cancer of specific part it covers all the symptoms of the disease of the specific part as well as the miasm. So it is a smilimum .  As we all know that in the pap of the Uterus taken from the cancer patient  contatins all the factors which can cause the cancer of utereus Including  its  pathogen to the damaged cells of the Uterus. So, the pap of the cancer patient has the power to produce cancer in the other women if  introduced.



2. Most of the time the nosodes are used in cancer treatment but they are used as an undercurrent remedy . But doing the reverse has shown much success as the symptoms of the cancer patient resembles the symptoms of other diseases or the common symptoms but if the medicine  is prescribed on those symptoms the medicine does  not show response but due to the domination of the disease force .


3. How to convince the patient to take homeopathic treatment.

In most of the countries there are different laws which prevent  the patient from taking homeopathic treatment.

Even if the patient comes to a homeopath he does not want to leave his conventional treatment.

Most of the patients come in the last stage to remove the side effects of radiation or chemotherapy.

What we do at our research center is that we had hunted out for a number of patients whose two of the family members had suffered from Cancer. The first patient was under allopathic treatment and the other patient on either homeopathic treatment alone or a combination of the allopathic  and the homeopathic treatment. We record the interview of those family member.In the interviews the patients  relatives or attendants narrate that how painful was the end of the first relative on pure allopathic treatment and what were the differences in the comfort levels faced by the other relative on homoepathic treatment. Even if both had reached  the same end. These interviews we show it to the general public in the cancer aware ness camps we organize for the patient and the general public.


4 Why to go for homeopathic treatment even after the removal


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The development of Nosodes

The advent of Hahnemann's theory of the miasms caused great interest in the chronic diseases and their anti-miasmatic remedies. One of the direct consequences of the publication of The Chronic Diseases was the development of the use of miasmic organisms as potentized homoeopathic remedies. The earliest experiments with nosodes were carried out by Constantine Hering 1827 and 1833..

It seems that shortly after Hahnemann published his chronic disease theory, Hering performed the first proving of Psorinum on himself. Hering originated the method of using a miasmic agent as a basis for a remedy and it was he who coined the term "nosode". The Greek word Noso is a prefix which is added to give the idea of a disease indicating its morbid root. This term is also connected with the Latin word "noxa", the root of the term noxious or damaged. This implies the use of potentially dangerous noxious materials as a basis for a potentized remedy.

The first generation of homeopaths who introduced the use of the nosodes were Hahnemann, Hering, Lux, Gross, and Stapf. Hering gathered a tremendous amount of first hand experience in proving and using nosodes and applying idem remedies to acute and chronic diseases in the field.

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The Homoeopathic Uses of the Nosodes

Hering recognized the characteristics of the nosode family picture.  And suggested nine different ways to use nososdes. These characteristics includes indications of the miasms concomitant to lack of vital reaction to well chosen remedies; constant changing of symptoms after administering remedies; fragmented pictures of several constitutional remedies and one-sided miasmic pathology with few characteristic symptoms.

So, the Nosode can be used as

•§  Constitiutional Remedy

•§   Where there is a Lack of Symptoms

•§  When the partial picture of the Constitutional Remedy Manifest yet no one Remedy completey fits the case.

•§  When the miasmatic Remedy obstructs the progress of a constitutional remedy

•§   When Related to the Disease Genus


•§   When Well Chosen Remedies do not act ,hold,or Just Change the symptoms


•§   Or the Never well Since Syndrome


 Homeopathic Prophylaxis


•§  Auto Nosodes



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Justification of use of Carcinocin Pap Utereus as Direct prescription in cases of Cancer of Uterus

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              Hering is responsible for greatly expanding the materia medica of homeopathy and adding seven (7) new categories of potentized remedies. Hering's 7 uses of idem in Homoeopathy and idem 2 ,3,4,6,7 go in favor of using nosode of specific part as direct prescription in cases of cancer 


2.    Idem 2 say  The use of remedies made from miasmas (Nosodes).

3.  Idem 3 says The introduction of potentized miasmas and morbid secretions taken directly from the patient's body (Auto-nosodes).

4. Idem four says-  The use of homologous organs, tissue and secretions (Sarcodes).

6. Idem six says - The use of chemical and nutritional elements innate to the human organism (Chemical and elemental relationships).

7. Iden Seven says - The use of potentized genus groups as curative and preventative remedies for individuals, groups, and habitats. Hering suggests potentized seed of weeds or dangerous plants to eradicate and destroy those plants and potentized insects or animals to remove and prevent infestations of dangerous species (Isodes).

*Lectures on the Theory & Practice of Homoeopathy, R.E. Dudgeon, BJain Publishers (P) Ltd, Lecture VI, Isopathy, pages 141-175.


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Hering continued to experiment with nosodes of acute and chronic miasms and invited others to conduct provings. He recommended the use of potentized watery excrements of cholera, the black vomit of yellow fever, the desquamated skin of malignant scarlet fever .Many ancient isopathic remedies were introduced into the Homoeopathic Materia Medica by dedicated homoeopaths of the 19th century. Constantine Hering, W. Gross, Wilhelm Lux, Father Collet, Swan and Burnett immediately come to mind. On December 24, 1835, Jolly of Constantinople reported to Hahnemann that Russian doctors had cured a number of cases of bubonic plague with a 30c nosode prepared from the serous exudation of plague buboes. Hahnemann was interested in the new nosode movement on the basis of these clinical experiences but he was concerned because most of these nosodes were not being proved. So in this way the revolutionary ideas contained within the 1828 edition of The Chronic Diseases changed the way people thought about contagious disease and stimulated the integration of nosodes into the homoeopathic pharmacopoeia

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Hahnemann felt that the isopathy of Lux was in truth only part of a greater homeopathic principle because all the remedies were potentized to at least the 30c dynamization. If it was potentized energy how could one call it the same thing as the original diseased substance? Hahnemann thought that under these conditions:

" would not remain idem (the same) as it could only be useful to him in a potentized state, since crude itch substance which he had already in his body as an idem is without effect on him. But the dynamization or potentizing changes it and modifies it".

In the light of Hahnemann's logic the use of the miasmic material without potentization was crude isopathy, and as Lux himself was using homoeopathic potencies, his treatment was still within the realm of Homoeopathy. Vide The Chronic Diseases, the chapter called "The Medicines".

"Thus potentized and modified also, the itch substance (psorin) when taken is no more an idem (the same) with the crude original itch substance, but only a simillimum (thing most similar). For between IDEM and SIMILLIMUM there is no intermediate for any one that can think; or in other words between idem and simile only simillimum can be intermediate. Isopathic and aequale are equivocal expressions, which if they should signify anything reliable can only signify simillimum because they are not idem."

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Swam, who is given credit for introducing contemporary Medorrhinum and Syphilinum, was asked if it was correct to use unproven nosodes. He replied that 100's of years of suffering these genus diseases, and their complications, provided a "natural proving".

This rather controversial answer does have some merit. It is obvious, however, that the most characteristic indications of the nosodes are those that have come out in provings or on patients under treatment.


In case of Cancer these ways of usage of Nosodes justify its use.

Two things may happen after the introduction of the nosode. The nosode may move the case forward by removing the active symptoms. When this happens it is best to stay with the nosode as long as the improvement lasts. If this improvement ceases the remaining symptoms may be treated with the  chronic remedy. If the patient does not show any improvement on the nosode after a sufficient amount of time, the  chronic remedy should be introduced. Under these conditions the remedy often acts just as dramatically as it was given  the first time . This effect has been witnessed by many experienced homoeopaths over and over again. -----------------------------------------------------------------Slide14

 The seventh way for using a nosode is when the remedy is RELATED TO THE DISEASE GENUS. An example of this method is Clark's use of Pertussin (Coqueluchinum) against whooping cough. Clark once wrote, "I have found in this nosode a specific for a large proportion of cases of this disease. It should be given every four hours to begin with, and if it does not cut short the case in a few days, or materially modify its severity, another remedy may be chosen from the following."

One can see from many of these indications that a good knowledge of the acute, half-acute and chronic miasms is very important in understanding the use of nosodes. As they are disease products knowledge of disease goes hand and hand with their usage. The study of the acute, half-acute and chronic miasms, and their action on the system of mass defense, is an important part of classical Homoeopathy. Some modern homoeopaths no longer pay any serious attention to the miasms and do not study the nine ways to use nosodes. Some are Neo-Kentian prescribers but they do not seem to understand that Kent studied the miasms and used nosodes in various ways depending on the circumstances. It seems at this time, however, the miasms are making a necessary come back as they are an integral part of homoeopathic pathology.

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Why the Nosodes as direct prescription in cases of Cancer was side lined in Homeopathy?

All  this was going quite well until Lux decided that the healing law was not "similars cure similars" but "same cures same". With this in mind he declared that "idem" not "similars" was the key to the healing arts and coined the term "Aqualia Aqualibus Curentur" in place of "Similia Similibus Curentur". This, of course, was exactly what Samuel Hahnemann was afraid would happen so he became quite defensive of Homoeopathy and critical of crude isopathy. Even before Lux's statements upset the climate of the research into the nosodes, Hahnemann felt that Psorinum should be proven more completely before being included in the materia medica section of The Chronic Diseases. In Hahnemann's mind the idea of using unproved disease substances on patients just because they suffered from the same contagion was far too limited.

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Clinical Trail of Carcinocin Pap Uterus 30 c on 100 patients of--Cancer of the Uterus


TO establish the positive role of Carcinocin Pap Uterus 30 c in diagnosed cases of Cancer of Uterus. It is more a clinical verification.


Diagnosed cases of Cancer of Uterus were taken in which the cancer was either diagnosed in the ultrasound ,C.T scan or the MRI report. The size of the tumor was noted along with the intensity of  pain and the amount  bleeding.

The medicine was given 2 drops 4 to 6times a day as required .According to the condition of the patient which was accessed by the bleeding and pain

Why Cancer of Uterus was selected for the trail

If endometrial cancer is detected early, nearly 90% of women who have it survive at least 5 years, and most are cured. The prognosis is better for women whose cancer has not spread beyond the uterus. If the cancer grows relatively slowly, the prognosis is also better. Fewer than one third of women who have this cancer die of it.



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Number of Patients Entered- 100

No of Patients who followed the protocol- 86

Number of Patients who improved were -78

Rate of Response to Carcinocin Pap Uterus is -90.69 %

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Cancer of the uterus begins in the lining of the uterus (endometrium) and is more precisely termed endometrial cancer (carcinoma). It is the most common gynecologic cancer and the fourth most common cancer among women. This cancer usually develops after menopause, most often in women aged 50 to 60.

Risk factors for endometrial cancer include the following:

•·                       early menarche (the start of menstrual periods), menopause after age 52, or both

•·                       menstrual problems (such as excessive bleeding, spotting between menstrual periods, or long intervals without periods)

•·                       never having had children

•·                       tumors that produce estrogen

•·                       high doses of drugs that contain estrogen, and no  progestron  which are generally taken  after menopause

•· use of tamoxifen

•·  obesity

•· high blood pressure

•· diabetes

•·  family history of cancer of the breast, ovaries, large intestine (colon), or lining of the uterus.

Many of these conditions increase the risk of endometrial cancer because they result in a high level of estrogen but not progesterone. Estrogen promotes the growth of tissue and rapid cell division in the lining of the uterus (endometrium). Progesterone helps balance the effects of estrogen. Levels of estrogen are high during part of the menstrual cycle. Thus, having more menstrual periods during a lifetime may increase the risk of endometrial cancer.
, a drug used to treat breast cancer, blocks the effects of estrogen in the breast, but it has the same effects as estrogen in the uterus. Thus, this drug may increase the risk of endometrial cancer. Taking oral contraceptives that contain estrogen and no progesterone increase the risk of endometrial cancer.

More than 80% of endometrial cancers are adenocarcinomas, which develop from gland cells. About 5% are sarcomas, which develop from connective tissue and tend to be more aggressive.

Symptoms and Diagnosis

Abnormal bleeding from the vagina is the most common early symptom. Abnormal bleeding includes bleeding after menopause or between menstrual periods and periods that are irregular, heavy, or longer than normal. One of three women with vaginal bleeding after menopause has endometrial cancer. Women who have vaginal bleeding after menopause should see a doctor promptly. A watery, blood-tinged discharge may also occur. Postmenopausal women may have a vaginal discharge for several weeks or months, followed by vaginal bleeding.

If doctors suspect endometrial cancer or if Pap test results are abnormal, doctors perform an endometrial biopsy in their office. This test accurately detects endometrial cancer more than 90% of the time. If the diagnosis is still uncertain, doctors perform dilation and curettage [D and C ], in which tissue is scraped from the uterine lining. At the same time, doctors may view the interior of the uterus using a thin, flexible viewing tube inserted through the vagina and cervix into the uterus in a procedure called hysteroscopy.

If endometrial cancer is diagnosed, some or all of the following procedures may be performed to determine whether the cancer has spread beyond the uterus: blood tests, liver function tests, a chest x-ray, and computed tomography (CT) or magnetic resonance imaging (MRI). Other procedures are sometimes required. Staging is based on information obtained from these procedures.

Hysterectomy, the surgical removal of the uterus, is the mainstay of treatment for women who have endometrial cancer. If the cancer has not spread beyond the uterus, removal of the uterus plus removal of the fallopian tubes and ovaries (salpingo-oophorectomy) is done in allopathic mode of treatment. Nearby lymph nodes are usually removed at the same time. These tissues are examined by a pathologist to determine whether the cancer has spread and, if so, how far it has spread. With this information, doctors can determine whether additional treatment (chemotherapy, radiation therapy, or a progestin) is needed after surgery.

Chemotherapy may be given after surgery, even when the cancer does not appear to have spread, in case some undetected cancer cells remain. More than half of women with cancer limited to the uterus do not need radiation therapy. However, if the cancer has spread, radiation therapy is usually needed after surgery.

A progestin is often effective. (Progestins are synthetic drugs similar to the hormone progesterone, which blocks the effects of estrogen on the uterus.) If the cancer has spread beyond the uterus, higher doses may be needed. Side effects may include mood changes and weight gain due to water retention.

So, Homeopathy is a better option for that.






From where to get the different nosodes- according to my information

Selene Homeopathic-







Free Mans Homeopathic




Aniswoths Homeopathic



The isopathic concept seems so easy (using the same against the same) that many star-struck beginners think they have found a short-cut way to do Homoeopathy. They do not have enough experience in the more traditional approach to Homoeopathy to understand those special moments when intercurrents are complementary to constitutional treatment. Others are prone to falling into old allopathic thinking combined with new homeopathic remedies. This leads to the abuse of idem in potency and can cause the disruption of the constitutional state. In the name of treating layers, removing drugs and blockages, some practitioners give too many remedies by idem while ignoring the totality of the symptoms of the patient.

This clinical  study does not mean that other Symptomatic remedies do not respond.  This is a pilot study and was done to proove the efficacy of Carcinocin pap Uterus over general carcinocin.


Cinical Materia Medica of Carcinocin pap Uterus after studying 100  cases of Cancer of Uterus.

Mind- Fearful, nervous, fear of death, loathing for life

Appetite- decreased, feeling hungry but no desire to eat

Female- lean thin, constant loosening weight

Pain in the lower  abdomen. Stitching pain ,tumor  growth

Menses- profuse, frequent , bleeding even after menopause, with or without clots , bleeding between the periods , .

Leucorrohea- transparent ,thick or thin foul smelling, blood mixed, purulent. Excessive

Aggravation- physical exertion, walking

Amelioration- rest


Adverse effects Known


Over doseing leads to heaviness of head or heat of body, increased perspiration. If this happens ,reduce the doses of the medicine








My understanding of proving of a remedy is that the remedy when administered to healthy persons creates symptoms of disease. Now after proving when this remedy is administered to sick persons, it removes their symptoms and thatswhy we say 'like cures like'. So proving is generally done on healthy persons and the results of provings are verified on the sick persons.
In the study that you have presented, whether proving was done or it was verified. Kindly clarify.


Answer- Clinically Verified




Homeopathy versus Isopathy

Isopathy is the principle underlying conventional immunotherapy and vaccinating.

Invention of Nosodes and the Consequent Origins of Isopathy
Dr. David Little, an eminent Organon Scholar and world famous Homeopath, opines that Hering did the fist set of provings of Psorinium on himself soon after the publication of the first edition of Chronic Diseases.

Of Lux's methods Hering states thus
"He never succeeded in curing but only ameliorating diseases with their own morbid products"
The other controversial claim in the article is by Swain, "100's of years of suffering these genus diseases, and their complications, provided a ‘natural proving'". This claim, if taken on face value is faulty because it does not take into account the mutation taking place in the disease-causing organism if we take a positivist view of the disease.

Some more questions:
- The article claims to provide a cure for cancer and in the same breath makes reference of specific parts. What pathology were the persons called for this trial actually suffering from? Can the author provide details on the number of persons at different stages of progression of the disease?
- How many of the sample were critical patients?
- Was it a Homogeneous group?
- What was the sample population?
- What was the Gender Ratio?
- The author claims a high percentage of Success but forgets to define Success.

Did drKent use specifics, yes he did

Seasickness tabacum (Dr kent's clinical cases)

There is a most astonishing resemblance between seasickness and the proving of tabacum I have always myself guarded myself against routine practice and advised every one else to keep away as far as possible from routine practice, but a grate many times I have been consulted where with out any symptoms at all, somebody will tell me. Every time I cross the herring pound I get sick, can not you send some thing?. And I have had some most as astonishing result from tabacum used for seasickness in a routine manner, without any symptoms

One man in particular I know who had crossed the ocean a good many times having a business office in NEW YORKand one inLONDON. He always dreaded to go. He said "I am sick from the time I go on the boat until I get off. I can eat nothing. I do nothing but vomit and vomit food from one end of the trip to the other". His fortune is invested in such a way that he needs to go two or three times in the year across the ocean. Now I provide him with the infallible protection, and when he gets out and feels his dizzy spell coming on he takes his powder and he can take his meals all the way over. The one powder has always down it , and he keeps on hand some powders of tabacum 70m.

I have used it many times for the sea sickness from riding in the cars .You can understand the tabacum sickness if u willget on the rear end of a boat and watch the waves as they go away from the vessel. The boat goes up and down, and the pretty soon the stomach goes up and down and ever thing goes up and down. Well sitting at a car window and watching the scenery as the car goes along produces a similar deathly nausea. Tabacum

Often relieves this nausea from riding in train. petroleum and cocculus some timesome times help seasickness , but tabacum is abroad remedy that seem to cover most of the symptoms.

Dear doctors likewise we also forced to use routine remedies when there is lack of clear-cut symptoms, in advanced pathological conditions, or the case was spoiled by taking too much medicines from other systems of medicine. In this conditions some pathological similar remedy or some routine medicine will give marvelous results ( some doctors who consult more than 200 cases per day will also use some specifics in there practice it is a fact)

Dr kb dilee kumar

Care well homoeopathic fertility clinic




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